Chinmaya Mission Tri-state Center - Bhagavad Gita Study Group (Sunday 1.00 pm)
Hari Om, Welcome to the blog for the Bhagavad Gita Study Group Moderated by Manikandan & Sai. This class is part of the CMTC Balavihar at Vrindavan, Ashram on Sunday's 1.00 pm. The class started studying Bhagavad Gita from Sep 2017. Summary of the discussions from each session will be written by a volunteer from the class, and posted here.
PLEASE NOTE:
Wednesday, June 11, 2025
Assignment response
Tuesday, May 27, 2025
Class Summary for May 18 2025 - Bhagavad Gita Chapter-9 Slokas 31-34
Summarized by: Shailesh Vyas
Recap & Initial Q&A
- Theme (from last class)
- Krishna is talking about actions
- Any desire based action produce bondage (Kamya v/s Niyatam karma).
- Renunciation of lower action/ desire, while uniting or attaching with higher. e.g. Climbing ladder or pole vault.
- Atman is present in everybody irrespective of good or bad or varnas, e.g. electricity. We are all dimmers (resistance to the flow of electricity or atman energy). Resistance is desires and ego.
- Samyag Vyavasito (word from verse 30) - Decided correctly or resolved correctly.
- Subjective Analysis - Better late than never.
- Video -
- Title - Nor I love anyone - Chapter 9, verse 29
- Link - https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=thGSKu_m2lw - They are in me, and I am in them.
- All these are in me, and I am not in them.
- Like when river merge with ocean, it becomes one.
- e.g. Ganga and Ocean
- Water evaporate and cause rain.
- Question - Maya is also created by God. So how can God say I am not in you?
- You are in me, and I am not in you. When entire consciousness is God.
- This is the same way - You are son to your Dad or Dad to Son at the same time.
- Question - Same applies to free will. Once you merge, then there is no free will. How can be that true?
- There are no actions that are desired based. All actions become Dharmik.
- These realized soul are in Ananda state. You will be drawn to them. Its like tejas (that attract others).
- Verse 31
- tkṣhipraṁ bhavati dharmātmā śhaśhvach-chhāntiṁ nigachchhati
kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśhyati - Translation
- Quickly they become virtuous, and attain lasting peace. O son of Kunti, declare it boldly that no devotee of Mine is ever lost.
- Verse 32
- māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśhritya ye ’pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ
striyo vaiśhyās tathā śhūdrās te ’pi yānti parāṁ gatim - Translation
- All those who take refuge in me. whatever their birth, race gender or caste, even those whom society scorns, will attain the supreme destination.
- Verse 33
- kiṁ punar brāhmaṇāḥ puṇyā bhaktā rājarṣhayas tathā
anityam asukhaṁ lokam imaṁ prāpya bhajasva mām - Translation
- What then to speak about kings and sages with meritorious deeds? Therefore, having come to this transient and joyless world, engage in devotion unto Me.
- Verse 34
- man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru
mām evaiṣhyasi yuktvaivam ātmānaṁ mat-parāyaṇaḥ - Translation
- Always think of Me, be devoted to Me, worship Me, and offer obeisance to Me. Having dedicated your mind and body to Me, you will certainly come to Me.
- Caste is not referred here by birth, but by actions (varnas).
- Vaishya - they do more good for themselves
- Kshatriya - They do some good for others.
- Shudra - Lazy or say its all due to God's will, what can I do?
- Brahman - who seeks knowledge.
- Even if we are in this journey, it's still not easy. Imagine someone who is not in this journey, ignorance will be very high. Ignorance has nothing to do with which caste you are born in.
- You have to keep cleaning jar like pickle jar using Nishkama Karma.
- e.g. If you are serving food in temple but deep down you want to open a restaurant and looking for prospect customers in temple, than its not Nishkam Karma.
- Theme
- Reducing desires
- Scan with intellect
- Reduce the quantity - Karma Yoga
- Improve quality - Bhakti Yoga
- Change direction - Jnana Yoga
- (Substitution and Sublimation)
- Substitute useless desire with useful desire.
- When a person is focussed with his intent with single pointedly, he attains Moksha very soon. Inward looking focus.
- This shloka shows that this knowledge is open for anybody. Women is just a reference to those who are attached.
- Reference being made to Rajarshi - King who were internally sages. e.g. Raja Janak.
- World = impermanent and does not give happiness/joy.
- This is the final summary of this secret - Fix a higher goal, surrender to this goal. Work hard for this goal without attachment to the result. Surrender the results. Remain in a state of meditation. e.g. While driving - Even if we are talking, listening to music, we can still drive.
- It's important to handle from all angles while we are progressing if we get a desire, we come down two steps.
- Subjective Analysis - Can we live like Rajarshi?
- Take home points
- Yajnas - Means to enjoy
- Three Yogas - Success, happy, growth.
- Niyatam Karma
- Donation matters (direction of thoughts -> depends on desires -> depends on vasanas).
- Video
- Title - My devotee never peris - Chapter 9 Verse 31
- Link - https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=FkwLNPZam40 - Summary - Swamiji highlights the power and importance of devotion in spiritual life. Once you have decided and turns towards me, in no time, he becomes more righteous men in the world. You function without egocentric desires. More like a satvic person (kind, merciful, ready to sacrifice your benefit for the joy of others). Mind and intellect becomes quieter. This peace is not a satisfaction of the desired object (like drinking cold water during thrist). This is everlasting. It offers reassurance to those who are striving on the path of bhakti (devotion) and emphasizes that even imperfect devotees are protected and uplifted by the grace of the Supreme Lord
- Video
- Title - Conclusion - Video 276 - Verse 33, 34
- Link - https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=bWJlRobBZ98 - Summary - Swamiji talks about - What is the purpose of this existence? - Always remembers the second line of the verse. All the joy in this life are like lightening flashes, constantly changing. There are joys in life but they are unsatisfactory. Happiness is not the object, its state of mind. The more you seek higher, the more peaceful you are. More you are able to quietened in your mind.
Friday, May 16, 2025
Class Summary for May 11, 2025 - Bhagavad Gita Chapter-9 Slokas 28-30
Summarized by: Rajesh
We saw three videos from Gurudev.
Ch 9 v28 video - The Lord says ‘I hate no one”
I am equally present, in all living beings.
In fact, ‘ have no hatred for anyone (not for criminals, not for Stalin, etc.)
Ch9 v29 video - Lord says ‘Nor do I love anyone either’
If you are seeking me, you will reach me. If you are not seeking me, I will not run after you.
Ch9, v30 video
Even the greatest sinner who surrenders to me completely, he will reach me & should be considered sacred.
Subjective Analysis:
Better late than NEVER
Thursday, May 1, 2025
Class Summary for April 27, 2025 - Bhagavad Gita Chapter-9 Slokas 28-30
Summarized by: Vidya Shivkumar
Sunday, April 27, 2025
Class Summary for April 13, 2025 - Bhagavad Gita Chapter-9 Slokas 24-27
Summarized by: Shivkumar Natarajan
We went through a story of Lord Krishna/Arjuna and their meeting with the rich and poor man-
One day, Lord Krishna and Arjuna were walking through a forest; as the day turned to night, they started to look for a place to stay. They happened upon a large house obviously belonging to a very rich man. They knocked at his door, and asked to be allowed to spend the night at his home, with the promise that they would depart at daybreak. The rich man rudely refused, and contemptuously asked them leave immediately.
Lord Krishna blessed the man and departed, saying, "You are already a very wealthy man, may you acquire more and more wealth."
A short while later, they came across a dilapidated little hut. Again they knocked at the door, and asked for shelter for the night. The poor old man who live there, took them in happily, and told them that his entire family had passed away, and he was alone in the world. Other than this hut, and one sickly cow, he had nothing else left. He served both Lord Krishna lovingly through the night, and shared with them the little that he had.
The next morning, as they were leaving, Lord Krishna said to the man, "May your hut burn down, and may your cow die a natural death."
Arjuna was aghast as he heard this, and asked Lord Krishna why he would bless a rich man who had been so rude to them, with even greater wealth? And why then did he virtually curse a poor old man, who had served them with such an open heart?
Lord Krishna's explained this as follows: "I did this for the good of both. The rich man was intoxicated with his wealth. I wanted to give him so much wealth so that all his material desires would be satisfied. It is only when he reaches that pinnacle, that he will realize that money cannot buy happiness. It is only then, that he will start introspecting, and begin his search for something more meaningful and enduring. In the process, he will become a better person.
And this poor old man....he is already very detatched from this world. There are only two things that are standing in the way of his complete detachment. This hut, and his cow. Once these two are taken away from him, he will be totally free. Therefore, I blessed, not cursed him to be free of both of them. Then he will be liberated!
1. Bhokta = Jivatma (true enjoyer of all experience)
2. This is UBS (Uniterrupted Bhramhan Supply)
3. We will obtain whatever we pursue with full devotion. So we need to choose wisely
4. Lord provides a very simple method- A leaf, A flower, A fruit or just water. He never mentions or desires anything expensive like gold or coins as such.
5. Symbolically- Leaf represents our attitude, Flowers are like our vasanas, Fruits are the results of all of our actions and water stands for life/body
6. Attitude of GIVING is the key aspect.
7. All aspects of our life we should treat it as an offering to the LORD.