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Thursday, February 22, 2024

Class Summary for Feb 11, 2024 - Bhagavad Gita Chapter-8 ver 15 - 16

Summarized by Shivkumar Natarajan:

After a brief discussion of the prior lectures summary the class watched Gurudev's lectures that is summarized below:
Videos watched : 
Summary 
• 204 Bhagavad Geeta - Why Realize and return to the same ditch - Part 1 (Chapter 8 Verse 15) | #Gita
• Arjuna represents the intellectual skeptic in all of us. 
• All scriptures stating the same for 1000 of years different races, religions so it may not be false 
• After many years of struggle of not enjoying any sense pleasure and reaching the higher plane of Consciousness.
• But is it worthwhile that after experiencing Infinite Bliss that I have to come back to this same world and its issues, Then my pain will be much more painful as I experienced the pleasure and came back to this ditch
• So the skeptic wonders "Why enjoy perfect bliss and come back "?

• 205 Bhagavad Geeta - Why Realize and return to this ditch? Part 2 (Chapter 8 Verse 15) | #BhagavadGita
• Krishna anticipated this objection from the intellectual skeptic
• He said "Once you reach this you can never come back to feeling a limited individuality"
• You will never ever forget that you are a Great Reality as the Consciousness you have realized is Timeless and hence endless.
• So having once reached Me/ experienced one that great one will never again be reborn into this impermanent House of Sorrow/ this world of change and will never come back to the attitude that he is a limited creature

• 206 :Bhagavad Geeta - Heaven and Hell (Chapter 8 Verse 16) | #GeetaCapsules | #BhagavadGita
• Gita describes that there are various worlds/lokas both higher and lower. Loka means common field of experience. E.g. : World of doctors , world of poets, student world, world of poor, world of rich. A world means common field of experience. People from one loka cant mix easily with another world as they don’t understand it.
• An ordinary student only knows 2 worlds Heaven and Hell. If you do good things you go to Heaven and if you do bad then you go to Hell. But Heaven and Hell are not 2 geographical areas but is the condition of your bosom. 
• If the mind is peaceful then it is Heaven. However if Mind is agitated it is Hell
• Heaven and Hell are not two different places between 2 states of mind

• 207 Bhagavad Geeta - Heaven and Hell - Part 2 (Chapter 8 Verse 16) | #GeetaCapsules
• Even the highest heaven are available for the Merits that one has done and are subject to change. Once the punya has exhausted you have to come back
• When you reached Me then you do not come back to egocentric realization /individual sense of helpless poor individuality having reached Timeless/ infinite state there is no change
• Try to reach not just by noble deeds the Heaven but try to reach the Timeless

• 208 : Bhagavad Geeta - Total Mind Series 1  Who created this world? (Chapter 8 Verse 16) #ChinmayaMission
• Introduction to Next section .. Every individual man given time to think every intelligent person starts thinking who created the world. And if anyone created he cannot be all loving God. He has to be cruel Devil incarnate as the world is wretched.
• We are intelligent to ask question but not able to get the data or analyze the data and come at response
• This question is always there and the scriptures have a cock and bull story as it is difficult to explain to average person. One has to explain to person based on his level. 

• 209:Bhagavad Geeta - Total Mind Series 2 Mind Projects the world - (Chapter 8 Verse 16) #ChinmayaMission
• We tend to interpret the world as per the mood of our mind. When happy we interpret things favourable to us and when sad same situation we interpret negatively
• We all thus project the world with our mind 

• Bhagavad Geeta - Total Mind Series - 3 - The Total Mind - (Chapter 8 Verse16) | #GeetaCapsules
• A tired individual has to rest after working all day. Similar to a heated car that has to be shut down to cool.
• Once asleep all worlds close down. When in morning all equipment's are replenished you look at the world through mind you see the world with new eyes. The tired person continues suffering.
• Thus each of us project our own world with our own minds 
• Therefore who creates the whole world ?
• It is created by total mind projecting by all minds and this world as it is equally available to all of number
• Total Mind is called as  Ishwara the Lord who is experienced in world via power of Creation/Sustenance/Destruction
The Macro Cosmic Mind = Total Vasana= Ishwara 

• 211 Bhagavad Geeta - Total Mind Series - 4 - Creator, Sustainer, Destroyer (Chapter 8 Verse 16) | #Gita
• God expresses in world of plurality as 3 mighty streams of powers.  The power of Creation/Sustenance/Destruction. 
• The average man will not understand word power hence they were created as the dieties Bramha, Vishnu & Mahesh 
• This power is in all of us and we exercise the same when we create thoughts, sustain thoughts and destroying/discard them

• 212 Bhagavad Geeta - Total Mind Series 5 - Destruction and Creation (Chapter 8 Verse 16)  #GeetaCapsules
• Total Mind is the Lord sleeps. When the individual mind sleeps his world is folded. Similarly when the Total mind sleeps all world is wiped out and this is called Deluge.
• And when the total mind wakes up it is exactly as we left it yesterday and the whole world wakes up exactly as it was prior to deluge
• Thus there is movement from the unmanifest to manifest and is called creation and the reverse is called dissolution /deluge/pralaya

• 213 Bhagavad Geeta - Total Mind Series - 6 - Kalyug (Chapter 8 Verse 16) | #GeetaCapsules
• Just like there is perfect continuity is our life between yesterday and today
• Same way there is perfect continuity between creation/ deluge/ creation.
• Total mind gets tired are millions of years.
• When tired there is no comprehension. Nobler and greater idea cannot be communicated and feel that all the philosophy too high . And we cannot comprehend an idea.
• And therefore this age is called as Iron age in our text books (Kalyug) where the only thought is on how to annihilate.
• No lover/tenderness/ no mercy/ no love/ no self control exists.
• But once having rested everybody is lively and peaceful

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