Summarized by Krishna Prakash:
Recap of Chapter 7 Slokas 17-19
Discussion about Wokeism:
Wokeism was discussed and participants were made aware about the concept and how it is gaining popularity among young adults in schools and colleges. It is about convincing youths that Purana Purushas(like Rama, Krishna) are not perfect and they should not be praised or followed.
This can cause confusion among younger generation and may deviate them from path of Vedanta. Especially when kids growing in foreign countries can be a prey to this false propaganda.
As followers of Gurudev, we need to be careful not to hide the truth, but educate kids that Avatars also made mistakes during some situations. It is because, they were behaving as normal human beings and acted as per rules and regulations which were applicable during that time and it is ok. This should not be projected as a reason not to follow or pray them, because their positive outcomes outweigh those minor mistakes.
Every guru had their own package from previous births and also had experiences from this birth, based on these their teachings were different.
1. Adishankara was doing debates with Buddhist monks during his period.
2. Ramanuja had Muslims and Saivites as challengers and he preached in private to avoid problems from other groups.
3. Madvacharya preached Dvaita in the form of Bakthi
4. In Kaliyuga, when it is difficult to choose between good and slightly good, gurus following different methods. For ex. Gurudev mentioned his motive is to convert hindus to Hinduism as most of us are unaware of Upanishads and people believed that vedas are only for elite people and not for all. So he wanted hindus to be aware of Vedic scripts and spread knowledge.
Slokas - 20-22
Krishna says, wisdom of people with materialistic desires has been looted away and those will be involved in rituals and seeking other gods. If they worship any form with surrender and faith, he will make the faith firm and unflinching.
Example of Kumbakarna was discussed as Devas requested Saraswathi to twist his tongue,so he asked for boon of sleep and god has given him without any questions.
A 3 year old kid will prefer to have a bag of chocolates rather than having dollars as it doesn't know value of money and its happiness is with chocolates. Similarly, human beings are stuck with materialistic desires without understanding the supreme Brahman. Our goal should be is to reach Brahman which is infinite and not to worldly finite matters.
We should move from Manoranjan(Entertainment) to Atmaranjan (Eternal peace).
Faith - Believing something that we do not know, but keep believing and it will come true one day.
The key is to understand that each god when they refer to themselves as "I", "Me" is nothing but they refer to Surpreme Brahman. For ex. Krishna in Bhagvad Gita, Shiva in Shivapuranam, Vishnu in Vishnupuranam and so on. This is even true in Christianity, Islam and other religions.
These are all different paths to reach ultimate destination "Supreme Brahman" and we should not comment or offend anyone's beliefs.
Ended with closing prayers and meditation.
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